Rotor Talk Live Season 4 Episode 43 X-Dynamics Evolve 2 DJI Mavic 3 Pro New Updates
Pro new updates hope everyone is doing well and people guys. We got a lot to talk about tonight. You may think theres not a lot. There is a lot okay and were going to be spending most of our time talking about the mavic 3, because theres just a ton of information im going to be passing on to you guys hope everyone is doing well, we have ray kelly, is in the house. Teb drone flyer drone master, mr steven ewing, from across the pond. My friend. How are you trina weeks is here uh john olson is here. Johnny drone flyer is here: bob ruler is here uh and thats, it so far and drone views, media and oaky tom uh maddies drumroll maddie welcome whats up my friend all right. We can rock now maddies in the house. Okay, like i said we got, we got bolo talk about tonight. I mean its just. You know everybody thinks oh well, you know, we know everything well, theres a lot of information. I want to pass on to you guys tonight, and i think i think you guys will be well be really pleased with this. Okay, now for news and updates okay, now this thing now, this piece of news is pretty incredible here: okay, um, we all know whats going to be happening on november, the 5th okay! Well, you know, let me go ahead and share my screen here. Okay, we have a dji, mavic 3 launch party thats right.
We have a launch party right now. I have it scheduled for 8 55 a.m. On november, the 5th thats subject to change based on you know, dji putting out a formal announcement or anything november. The 5th, i believe, is still a firm date, so stay tuned im gon na you know, save the date as they say: okay save the date november. The 5th, my guess is its going to be at 9am. My guess is also going to be its not going to be a live release, its going to be a soft launch like theyve, been doing it saves them a whole lot of money to do it. That way, so thats in what 16 days? Okay, now ive asked marcus and ron to be on, and they reminded me – and i completely forgot that guess, where theyre gon na be theyre gon na be in this in in the great state of texas. Okay for spin up, i think ron is getting there wednesday. Marcus is gon na get there thursday, so hopefully theyll be able to get on with me uh a little bit after 9 00 a.m on on the 5th, so we can take a look at things. We can take a look at the official specs. You can take a look at the official prices we can find out what marcus did when he hit the buy button. What ron did and what bills going to do so stay tuned? For that, its going to be a lot of fun were just going were going to make it a fun time.
Okay, because weve done this before these – these are fun its a great time and its a lot of of excitement regarding this. This is something weve been weve been probably waiting for for almost a year, i would say, probably over two almost two years. I know its been three years since weve, the mavic 2 came out, but this is something thats been in the works for a while. So stay tuned got a lot of stuff. This is going to. This is just going to be awesome so want to set you set your set. Your watches, set your calendars mark mark your date save the date november. The 5th 8 55 a.m well be well, be live, it may be sooner. It may be later. It depends on when dji is going to. You know, whatever time that they put up for their their announcement and again. I firmly believe this is going to be a soft launch. Its not going to be, you know, were not going to have an in person release because no invites have been sent out. Im on the list and nobodys been nobodys been given any invites so stay tuned for that thats going to be a lot of fun. Hopefully marcus and ron can get on with me, and i ive asked some other individuals and guess what everybody ive asked. So far is going to spin up um maddie. If youre available im going to drop you a link that morning um, i know youll be in route.
I know i asked johnny drone flyer and you know johnnys gon na be in root as well so um. I may not have have a lot of people to choose from here. We may go with solo, but be that, as it may were, going to still have some fun so and hopefully, if the hotel, wi fi, is working fairly decently, ron and or marcus can can be on and we can share in this excitement. So thats going to be a lot of fun. Guys look forward. To that i mean i i cant say i cant say enough about that. All right! Just oh! You know – and i want to say this as far as news and updates wasnt, that a great show on drone nation last night. I hope you guys tuned in because ill tell you what i had a blast. All right, ron and marcus have a top notch show its on every show is great. Okay, every show is great, they have a top notch show and it starts the week off on the right foot great guest. Last night, captain ray kelly was on ray youre awesome and you have awesome insight and you know your stuff and you do a great job and ray informed us for the south. I think its officially south florida drone meetup uh, not, i think, thats. What the name of it is anyway, its the next next april, okay – and he already has entertainment books.
Okay, so you can ask ray about the entertainment he has booked or go out, go out to the the facebook group page and take a look and see so its gon na be fun im planning on being there. You know as long as as long as theres. No humongous outbreak of covet going on around here and um, the the mrs is is, is willing, well be there so and thats going to be a lot of fun, so hopefully better weather than they had um this year, because the weather was pretty bad. It was very windy and they couldnt get any flying in so um see, grumpy, vloggers, grump, hey, hey, yes, grumpy vlogger is in and he said, judy is getting better lloyd. That is great news. Thank you. So much for sharing that with us. We weve been concerned about how shes doing so. We really appreciate the update there. Thats thats awesome um very, very, very good to hear so um so yeah so thats. Where were at so thats where were at with all of that, and, like i said, excuse me, we got a lot of fun coming up. Okay, we got a lot of fun. Coming up now, tomorrow, now, tomorrow, we gon na were having um. Let me get. We have a release tomorrow. Okay, now this is going to be a formal one, all right theyre, having a its going to be theyve invited people there in this is the camera that youve seen and i dont think do i have an article on that.
I dont think i do. I thought i did no, i dont i dont have an article on okay, but its gon na be that um the camera and its going to be part of their their three prong release and on a week from tomorrow on the 27th, its gon na, be the Action two its gon na be coming out and then you know whats coming out on november, the fifth now you know this is going to be something i can. I can tell you its going to be for professional photographers. I mean if, if youre a hobbyist – and you want to get this by all means, go for it, okay, but i think its going to be expensive all right, but youre gon na youre gon na youre gon na pay some serious coin for this. So stay tuned. You know well make sure we get all the details out and publish out on build a drone of your facebook group and page, so you guys can can check it out if you want and if youre interested uh. But for for. For my vantage point and where i think most of us sit thats going to be something thats not going to be, you know something that is going to be meaningful to us now for people who are professionals at it um. You know, like our good friend original dobo, im sure hes pro he might. He might it might peak his interest or billy kyle, because you know they both fly drones professionally for a living.
They they earn money. That way. So you know that may be right for something like them, so stay tuned and im sure therell be videos out on it and ill get some videos posted out on the channel. So you guys can go ahead and check that out, um, you know and again i think the cost on that is going to be pretty pretty high. Now, when were talking about cost here, i know one of the things that we havent talked about um and i didnt talk too much of lauren donna. Our welcome lauren glad to see you in the house tonight. Metro jones bill welcome, um good to see you here. Jsk enterprise, one of things we havent talked about – is the price of the action too and thats. One thing that i wanted to spend a few a couple of minutes and go over right now. Now we all know the gopro is at ‘9 and you know thats as long as you get their subscription service and a lot of people have done that and – and you know its good and you know my feeling about the gopro is and from talking to ron And watching his video, you know they they tweaked last years model. Okay, they gave they gave it some tweaks and theyve kind of upped the ante a little bit on here. Is it significant and probably not significant, but theyve improved it? Okay, it is improved. Now the action too, like we talked about um its going to have separate modules, its going to be ideal for fpv drones.
You know you, you cant, you cant. I cant emphasize that enough thats going to be a lot of fun. There is an fcc filing on that. We found that out on drone nation last night. Our good friend, lon dennard, reminded us that anything that has wi fi is going to have an fcc approval on it and were going to have were going to were going to do a deep dive on the mavic 3 here coming up in just a little bit. So stay tuned. This is going to be good with the mavic 3 tonight youre going to want youre going to want to watch this segment of the show guys. Okay, um trust me its its going to be its going to be good. I i did did my homework today, all right so price on the action action too, all right im. I i got to think its going to be in the same ballpark as the gopro hero 10.. I dont see it being more than 400 really uh. You know they want to stay in competition with gopro. I think its, i think its reasonable. I think thats, probably what that, what what youre gon na get now thats, probably for the base model itself um to get everything else and all you know all the accessories. You might spend another 150 200 on that okay, so stay tuned for that were gon na have full details on that. Coming up next week, its gon na be out on the 27th um.
There hasnt been a time announced for that yet, but if there is ill get that posted on the facebook group and facebook page now, the articles that i use and – and i want to kind of kind of make – make this clear to everybody that i always post The articles that we talk about here on the show out on the facebook group and page and i in there there are links in the description as well for that. So, if you want to reference these articles, please do so you know i. I highly encourage you to look through some of these articles. You know when we talk about some things, because sometimes i dont have enough time to go over everything that i want to talk about with you guys, so be that as it may, all right were going to kind of move on from that. But action 2 on the 27th, my guess on price, an interested guesstimate, ‘9. stay tuned and, yes, i think thats going to be available at best, buy amazon and dji all. At the same time. I dont think youre gon na have any problem getting that all right. Gon na switch gears here a little bit all right now, um x dynamics evolved to reviews all right now, theres, there have been several out there all right, and you know captain drones had one and our good friend original dobos had one um. I think billy kyles had one and you know its a mixed bag right now on this and um, and you know our good friend original dobo.
He calls it like it is, and you got ta love ken, because he doesnt mince any words on it and i dont know if he got a bad unit or not, but what we saw and what he experienced. Wasnt good and im, hoping that it was a bad unit. Im hoping and im hoping x dynamics learned their lesson from the first of all um. You know, but the one thing that he did say you know a lot of people are talking about, even though the controller is is incredible and the amount of information you get on it and whats available on it its. It does weigh a lot. So you know thats something to take into consideration. Um, you know its a make or breaker and no its not a maker or breaker um. They may have some kind of lanyard hook on it. I dont know i did i havent taken a close look at the controller to know that or not, but remember, the x dynamics evolved too its its a big drone, its not small and its also big in price. Okay um. You know youre youre, youre, probably gon na, spend about four grand for something like this. So are people gon na. Is this something thats going to peak everybodys interest? You know say: probably inspire two pilots, probably not um, they kind of have to prove themselves all right and and and im hoping ken, maybe gets another unit because you know it just it just i just have the feeling in the back of my my my mind, That he got a pre production unit that wasnt fully baked so and ken.
If you have any comments on that, please let us know drop me a line. You know post a comment here. Um, you know if youve been in touch with them. Um, because were we were interested to find out um lets see ken got a very used unit that had one crash to its nate leonard wow. Thank you for posting that okay, i didnt know that thats wow. Okay wow see when – and we talked about this last night on drum nation and im. Sorry, if, if im going to kind of repeat something that i said last night, but we we kind of talked about this and said you know what x dynamics marketing department, they need to get their their their act together. Because when you send these out to reviewers. Okay, and especially somebody like ken all right hes, going to look at every hes going to look at every bell, every whistle, every nook, every cranny hes going to hes going to shake that drone out a lot like a lot of us would who, who would be Given a unit to review okay and were going to talk about the good were going to talk about the bad and wow leonard. Thank you for sharing that information. Appreciate that so yeah thats kind of um. Well guys i dont know, is that something thats a show. Stopper right now, probably okay, that probably is um yeah, so heres what you know thats what we have going on here, all right with x dynamics – and i was hopeful that that they learned their lesson and they had time um because they were on the cusp of Coming out with it back when the pandemic hit and im sure you know its a lot of things got derailed at that point in time so well see i and seriously ken deserves x dynamics.
If youre listening to me send original adobo a good working unit, a new one, so he can fully test it and post a great review. You know thats coming thats coming from all of us because you know thats what i want to see all right. So if you can do that, wed all appreciate that so all right now, you know its one of those things that i think for me. Okay, ill tell evo nano all right. No, we weve been talking about it the past few weeks, and i wanted to give you guys some some updates about this. From from my standpoint, all right, one of the things i can tell you im gon na get one now im, not gon na get one right away, all right, its probably gon na be you know i may have santa for one for christmas. I dont know uh. If santa is, if ive been a very good boy, i might get one under the tree for christmas. I dont know so well see about that all right, um, yeah, so im definitely gon na get one uh im excited about them. I think autels got a good thing going here. Um. I think its gon na provide a very serious challenge to dji um, so stay tuned to dji, because i expect a mini three sometime early next year, i dont think theyre going to let autel steal the show as far as this is concerned. Now the other thing with autel is this and its not so much a supply chain issue or the well ill ill.
Call it this? Okay, its not so much. You know those container ships sitting off the coast of california right now, thats, not an issue. Okay, its manufacturing, okay, autel, does not have the manufacturing capabilities of dji thats, all thats, a thats, a fact: okay thats something you take to the bank, guys: okay, um thats, a good comment from lauren good comment about the um about the evolve too. Okay, i expect where artels gon na run into problems is, i think, demand is going to exceed supply initially here. So i think if you want to be an early adopter of the nano, get it as soon as it hits the doors. Okay, i i dont. I i cant emphasize that enough, so i think theyre, i think theyve made an initial run, an additional production run of it and you know thats, where this you know supply chain could come into play, play a hand in this is lets, say supply. You know demand exceeds supply, then people are going to be waiting for a while, and i think that were probably going to find that to be the case. So if you really want to get one, you may want to put a deposit on one. This is just me, this is just my personal opinion. Im im waiting. You know, you know my. I have a huge cash outlay coming up on november, the 5th so otherwise i would be if, if the mavic, 5 3 wasnt connected five mavic 3 wasnt coming out wed, be going wed, be going here, guys, okay, wed be going here.
This is where this is. Where i i would go, but i think i think its going to be a great drone, the specs look great on it. The camera looks great on it. The obstacle avoidance looks stellar on it. The runtime looks great on it. Um weve got color choices. I wouldnt be too picky about color. You know i would as long as youre able to get one there. I think thats going to be great um, so um just reading some of the comments right now. I think this demand supply issue that were dealing with all types of supplies: theyre, definitely going to affect dji and their competitors. Drone pilot um yeah. I think it is and were going to talk a little bit about that with the mavic 3. um, because i have some thoughts on what i want to share with you guys on the mavic 3 tonight so um. I got a lot of thoughts. I want to share with you guys on the mavic 3 tonight so um so yeah, so you know ill tell you nano its going to be a great drone. If you want to get it, my advice is off as soon as you can buy it, because i think its one once their initial supply goes out. I think there may be some stuck on some of these ships out there so and also too, like i said, theyre not as a big manufacturing outfit like dji is so its going to be harder for them to keep up with this demand initially.
So just you know bear that in mind. Now you know theyre theyre, building two models of this and then theyre building. You know the evo light as well too so thats going to play into this. You know theres theres a lot of logistics here for them to handle and uh. You know well see how this goes im real hopeful. I want to tell you to succeed. Okay, i really do mavic 5. Already coming on yeah lloyd. I wish i ive been a rick van winkle ive been sleeping for a while. I guess i dont know thats a good one. I dont know where i came up with that. I have. I have no idea, no idea, um. My thumb is hovering over the buy button. They tell me i can get one by november, the 5th yeah well looking at some of these comments here, youre – probably right ray as far as the mavic air 2 is concerned. Um in air 2 s youll, probably see a lot of them for sale. There is a lot out there already for sale uh. I i did see that um all right its time. All right and like i said we got a lot to cover here. Hopefully, ron and marcus will join me shortly, but were going to get started because theres a there is a lot to cover with this update. Okay now. The first thing i want to touch base with here is yes: lets go ahead and share the screen here now.
Dji updates go for app. I had a mavic 3 launch version: 4.3.46. Okay, the app is currently used to fly the mavic 2 pro and zoom, as well as older drones, such as the phantom 4 pro it also. It also does the inspire 2 as well. The updated version of dji go 4 app is 4.3.46. According to ddgi, the update adds support for ios 15 and fixes certain issues and optimizes overall app quality. We havent recently seen any updates for the dji go for app is djis. Newer. Drone models are all using the fly app. The last update was eight months ago here so during the launch of the original mavic mini in brook, and he meant to say, mavic pro 2 in brooklyn in the fall of 2018. dji employee told me the dji fly app was the way forward. The goa go4 app was too complicated to keep working for older and newly introduced dji drones. Furthermore, the go4app was considered not to be user friendly, although it does offer more options to fly. Your drone and change settings versus the flyout the dji fly. App interface was designed to be simplified and intuitive compatible for mavic mini mavic air 2 dji mini 2 dji fpv dji, air 2s, dji mini se, says dji. So what do we make of the go for app short of the mavic launcher is scheduled for november. The 5th is the update simply needed to keep the go for app functioning.
Well, the latest ios and android, or will the dji mavic 3, actually use the go for app and is there a split between what app is used for consumer drones versus the more professional drones that we use the go for app or will we see an updated Version for the dji fly app to unlock more features and make the app more suited for drone pilots who will fly the mavic 3 professionally. Let us know in the comments below what you think of the dji go 4 app ahead of the mavic 3 launch. Okay, that is a lot to digest there guys okay thats a lot to digest, and i wanted to wanted to present this to you guys to kind of get your thoughts and see what you guys think on this: okay, um yeah g boy, hey g boy! Welcome glad to see you tonight im, not a fan of the fly app compared to the dji go 4 app uh. Supposedly the fly app will be getting a huge makeover for the mavic 3. um. I hope so maddie because it needs it all right um. It is an old code base and let me speak from a programming standpoint because ive been in it for 30 years. I was a developer for a long time and, as you know, i do software quality assurance testing right now. Its an old code base and maintaining old code base is its difficult and its tedious and its very time consuming to make those changes um.
I will say that, on the other hand, it might be easier for them to insert the mavic 3 into the go4 app. All right uh, as you know, the smart original smart controller used the go4 app so um. You know for that. You know now yeah its been since been updated, but is this something is dji gon na i i kind of here heres my thoughts on this okay. They can go either way on this, but my thought is theyre. Probably gon na go towards the fly app and, like maddie said i think theyre gon na go its gon na have a huge makeover for november, the fifth so stay tuned for that um. You know, while there are some things i like about the fly, app the go for app, you know. I see the one thing that i like about the fly app compared to the go4 app. Is you didnt have deep menus? You didnt have to go down three menus to find something i think, thats a good feature of it all right. The go4 app, however, gave you more options to do things so and and heres heres another another. You know some food for thought all right. The fly app is geared toward consumers. Okay, your your your mavic minis or you know, is now your minis um, your mavic air twos, your air, 2s, okay mini se. Those are all consumer drones. All right, strictly, mavic 3 is going to be its a borderline.
Its a you know, you want to call a prosumer drone, its going to be between professional and consumer. So what app does dji choose to use on this? Okay, it remains to be seen all right. Maddie may be right. The fly app may be getting a full makeover for this, but they could still go with a go4 app. We dont know we dont know and what are your thoughts on that ron? Welcome bill, i i did. I mean i just clicked when i didnt even hear any. The pre show chatter uh, but i do want to welcome everybody in out in the chats tonight see a lot of the uh, our good friends out there in the chat i see lloyd, the grumpy vlogger out there. I hope judys doing well uh. You know so. Uh, yes, judy is doing well. He posted that earlier, so good good. I wanted to drop that by you were starting on. What are we talking about? Bill were talking the mavic 3 and were talking originally um. You know theres. A lot to talk about here were talking about the go for app and the update, and now our good friend maddie is reporting that the fly app is going to get a huge makeover for in time for november the 5th. But you know i was trying to point out the pros and the cons of of using each app for the mavic 3 um, because you know we think of the mavic 3.
You think of it more as a prosumer type of a drone. It kind of falls in between you know, professional and consumer, and you know the professional and would probably call for something like a go for app with deep level menus, but more options available. So you know its a coin toss at this point right, because we we all assumed that the fly app was just designed. You know for uh, more hobbyists, like uh, you know for the mavic mini series and the mavic air series of drones. We never realized that it would, you know, maybe we dont know yet take over and be the the only app i mean the go. A lot of us assumed to go forward was done, but now that they gave it a refresh made it compatible with ios 15. Maybe maybe not so now, yeah and i dont well, i dont know if well have any confirmation for sure which app will work with the mavic 3 until maybe that launch date of um. What is the fifth bill? Yeah itll be the fifth, so yeah youre right ron. We probably wont know up until that day. In that time you know theres theres, no theres really been no hints. I mean experienced guys like you and i have experience flying both apps yeah. It wont be a big deal for you and i to jump either one but theres a lot of people that are newer to the hobby that we are built.
They only have experience with the fly app, so them all of a sudden have to switch. The go4 app could be a little bit of a wake up call whatever very true so yeah so thats. You know its a coin toss as far as far as thats concerned, so i think thats something we kind of want to stay tuned to um. You know what dji is going to do with this its going to be interesting, um. You know and hey put out a pretty good article about that. So i mean thats, some pretty good food for thought as well. I mean, and not only dji but ill tell when their nano has come out and lights come out. They will have a special app for those too, so its not just dji all tells be following the same track where they may have an app geared more towards their professional drones and an app more geared to their uh consumer hobbyist. Drone so well see well see. Well, i dont know if you saw today, i think you probably did um hey put out an article and aerial photo from mavic. 3 shows high dynamic range in detail, and i dont know if youve seen any of these well, i know my dynamic is the full wording for hdr yeah. So uh you know they it look. It looks authentic and in everything that he was talking about in the article 1.7 uh megabit jpeg file its a resolution: 490 4096 2416, its 72 dpi uh its, not a raw image, so its hard to determine the flexibility of the photo to allow for manipulation.
In the post it has look at the balance, colors and dynamic range, no blown out highlights or shadows. The aerial aerial photo seems to be an hdr image. With a lot of detail, it was processed on board. The mavic 3. um now heres another one with a little bit more more detail, and then it goes into um. That apparently was just maybe holding the cam holding the drone still and taking a picture. This is a tibetan yak and then down here. It looks like that original shot from what they said in the article. There was a panorama: okay um and they they kind of, took some detail but, as it said, um, obviously this is pretty high up, but the details are the quarter feet bill yeah? That is not 400 hdmi. Remember folks, thats the only uh us regulation that not thats, not a world regulation yeah, see – and i think this was over in tibet, so which, which is a very mountainous reason region and the the detail on. This is fantastic uh and i think its the real deal. I i suggest you guys read the article um, you know, i i i think it i think it looks fantastic, i think were in for a real treat ron yeah and you know i mean i know the high end guys are going to shoot raw photos and Edit them all in lightroom and so on, but for a lot of the audience they they want that in camera process, super good, looking jpeg and by what you just scroll by bill.
It looks like this will deliver a real nice photo uh again right out of the camera. Again, i know camera guys like laura, who is in the chat hes taking all his hes taking his five exposures, and you know doing all this blending and coming up with something. But i mean it is important for a lot of people to have good in camera. Uh photo processing, and these do look uh quite ivy. Now, of course, most of these photos usually built – you know, have a lot of you know dynamic range in the photo itself, so they make, for you know a good image. How you really see a good camera is those you take a picture of something its, not real, vibrant, see how it does with that yeah and in your exact thats, a great point ron, because you really find out how that camera works and how it behaves and And for a lot of people i mean you know, i know for you for me for marcus for some others, you know we we can play around with iso settings. We can play around with filters. You know we know. We know enough to be dangerous. You know as far as as far as thats concerned, but for for lets say for like a new level hobbyist or somebody thats not been around drones, thats going to get something like this. They they wont have to do a thing. Okay, take some of these pictures and it will come out incredible yeah if they have a high end phone like iphone or samsung or whatever yeah yeah, exactly exactly so um.
You know one of the other things here, of course, um and let me pull up the article okay now. This was real, interesting and i saw this on drone dj today and i know you know weve been talking about how i how ive said – and i said last night on drone nation and by the way, thank you guys for having me on, and it was a Great show, and if you didnt catch it, please watch it. It was a great evening welcome bill thanks for coming on last night, ray kelly right, good feedback, ray kelly was fantastic last night having him on um and looking forward to his meetup coming up now this article on drone dj talks about, could supply chain chaos disrupt Mavic 3 pros launch, okay and and ill invite you guys to read the article, but one of the things that i i i was kind of formulating some thoughts after reading this article today ron and where i think the problem is going to be is going to Be this dji has an initial supply already sitting in the warehouses: okay over in california, new jersey, atlanta, chicago theyre, in there theyre in their warehouses, already theyre ready to go all right, and i know you know, the big boxes have probably got an initial supply as Well, like that, amazon has their union strategically placed around the country too, exactly okay, where i think the problem where i think this is going to come into play is probably going to be.
Maybe lets say a month down the road, okay and its getting near christmas. All right – and you know lets – say: mavic 3, okay, uh uh and im gon na say this its going to be like the mavic original mavic pro all over again, okay, theres going to be its going to be an explosion. All right, dji is going to be selling these, like hotcakes theyre, going to be coming out, left and right all right, where i think theyre going to run into a problem ron and sooner we closer we get to the holidays. You know if they get they dont get the supply chain issue solved by then were going to see another mavic pro not having not having them in stock kind of a kind of an issue like we did back in 2016, not because dji hasnt produced them, but Because of the supply chain issue that potentially could be going on right now, yeah yeah, so uh kind of what youre saying is uh. You know if you dont uh, if you dont, if you met, if you wait around the order of whatever you, maybe maybe six weeks like the uh original magic wand. But i do want to point out. I read the same article. You did our drone dj and not thats a good article. They laid out the whole supply problem and the ships, and so on and everything they have in. There is what you read in all the publications, but i mean that article was just delays of shipping in general.
They didnt have one detail in that article, that was to dgi supply chain or anything in particular bill. So i mean they. They could well be right, but it was all just speculation, especially as how it applies to the dji. I agree 100, but i mean, but again i i still agree with you if apples having a slight delay of getting their iphones out everybodys in trouble. Whatever you know, i mean – and i would i kind of want to say your words for you. If you really want this mavic 3 be ready to order on day one. I agree 100 and thats and i think thats the message that you know. We need to be ringing that alarm bell loud and clear. If this is a drone that you have wanted, you know get your piggy banks ready now, okay, yeah get it get. You know get your get your buy button finger all lubricated and ready to go, but who i feel sorry for bill is the people that arent sure and they want to sit back and watch all the billy kyles and aldrin and stashes, and all the big channels Get all their reviews out, they want a city, sit there and study those reviews bill, and then they want to make up their minds. But then, when they go hit, the buy button, itll say like uh, backed up for six weeks. I feel bad for those people that that arent sure want to see the reviews exactly exactly not everybodys, not everybody has their mind if they want to.
They want to see what it can really do, and i and i dont blame those type of people. If youre going to put this type of money out, you want to be sure dont you bill yeah its funny. I dont know if youve seen laurens comment right. Um im not ordering a mavic 3. Laughter got it got a lot, got ta love that humor from lauren thats good that thats a good one. One of the things that i found today um. You know, i think i think we all know: um, henrik tech, drone, media, okay, great channel a great guy ive talked with him several times, chatted with him several times, hes a great guy, and definitely if you havent, subscribed to him. Please do so now. He put out a video and i wan na im gon na show – and i have i dropped it in the in the description for you guys to take a look at now. What he is saying is: okay, read the title: dji mavic 3 has no cx label, confirmed by fcc database, good or bad news for you uh. Does it carry a c mark or c class identification label, as this will have a high impact? According to the new esa, a s a eu drone laws – 2023, okay, um, you know, and what that means is, you know, is it will it fly over in the european union? And if you watch his video apparently this means its a no go for the european union: okay, um and he you know he explains in there and he does a great job on this as well um.
You know why he says its not djis responsibility. Um. You know its more on and its not the fccs responsibility, okay, um so, and i highly encourage you to watch this video. Of course you know my friends overseas. Please want henriks a great channel subscribe to him. Please do so. Please watch this video because he explains it pretty well. So this is something to stay tuned for um. You know. Is this a temporary thing? Is it something thats going to change over the course of time i dont know um are the new eu roles were even more confusing than our roles? Yes, theyre even more confusing and hes put out another one that talked about even with like the mini 2, that theres gon na be restrictions on being able to fly the mini two uh coming next coming, i think in 2023., so um theyre getting real strict over In europe um as far as far as thats concerned, i mean its really theyre really clamping down and why theyre doing this, i have no idea ron. I have absolutely no idea well um you. You have that fcc uh database thing up there. I dont think we talked about the show last night, but i saw what maybe at the show that theyve even discovered the uh, the fcc uh thing for the smart controller. Yes, i did see that i did. I did see that as well and see. Okay, you can see theres a c here.
Okay, uk ca um see some other information here now. One thing here: okay now this is this is a good. This is some good information here and we kind of talked about this a little bit last night. Now this is from from the fcc grand id database. L2P is the mavic 3 cine. The l2a is the mavic 3. only the l2p was tested since, according to the declaration from the applicant, the electrical circuit, design, layout components used. Internal wiring and functions were identical for the above models. The difference between the l2p and the l2a is the memory is different. L2P has one more ssd than the l2a okay, one more ssd than the l2a, so they has two and the a has one. I mean whats that saying i think, thats what thats saying so more. I think that i think were going to have a lot of memory on there ron thats, really kind of a kind of a signal for that. My guess – and this is just off the top of my head – okay now, if, if theres two on there, my guess is, it would be probably 500 in each one for for that, so maybe were getting it. Maybe 500 for storage. I mean you know, think about it. I mean its its its a possibility. Yeah well think about it. If, if, if hups could put 128 of internal storage in theirs, why cant dji top that right bill, yeah, yeah and – and i think and i think they and i think they will um okay cryptoman 5000 just reported theres no panel to approve the new c label Requirement: okay, thank you for clarifying that so um yeah thats going to be very interesting, just kind of see where that goes um as far as thats concerned, so yeah this.
If um, if theyre not able to sell the battery through in europe, because these restrictions that may it make let more units available for other countries, bill yeah, that could be, that could be very possible as far as far as thats concerned um. Now i wanted to go ahead and bring up now. This is what it looks like. I know, because i had some questions on this. This is actually what the filing looks like on the fcc grant id database um, and you can see it. It takes a lot. You kind of have to decipher because not a lot of it, you know you dont exactly you dont see mavic 3 immediately through a lot of this information here: okay, um, you know, youll see coming down here: original equipment, original equipment, um itll list. The frequency ranges for this, and this is, if youre an electrical engineer, this is going to be right up your alley. If youre, not its going to just be double speak to you as far as thats concerned now, heres some application forms the applicant information, fcc id person, technical contact, long term, confidentiality in a short term short term and long term do apply to this um. I wanted to go down here test firm information. This is who actually tested it, equipment, authorization, waiver grants – and here – and here are the grants that are actually listed for this. You know permission to access. Okay, you can only go so far on this.
Okay, some of that information is blocked. You you cant, even you cant even see it, and i you know i wanted to go through this, just to kind of show you guys what some of this information was interesting. See bill and i wanted to pull up, was trying to find. Oh, i want bill clinton up for a second. I want him great pitman, a happy birthday. He says hes got to go for his birthday dinner uh he night, everyone, so big, big big. Thank big. Happy birthday to our friend, greg, pittman and yeah great pit. He will be at spin up on uh november. 6Th awesome well happy birthday greg from all of us here. I hope you hope you have a good one, um im, not finding the links that i wanted to find on this um, because youll be able to see now with some of them. They protect them and it looks like its protected on this one. I think theyve locked some of the things the other day i was able to bring up a couple of pdfs and im not able to find those right now, and i dont know why um yeah access denied access tonight, theyre locking things down huh yeah, they locked They locked this down since this, since this came out because they know a couple million times since then yeah and that and thats why they do that now you know, i think, were gon na see more information come out, not less as the days go on.
I think well see some more pictures. I think we may even see a video or two um of the mavic 3, maybe in flight we may see the actual footage from the mavic 3.. Hey marcus, hey guys, uh bill. I i need to interrupt for just a second weve got some breaking news that you guys are gon na really be interested in whats that uh. So john coope just sent me this over and im gon na ask for the screen here sure go for it. Share screen, sorry about that. Give me just a second share and right here: uh, so can you guys see my screen now? Yep sure can so this brendan carr of the fcc at the top there he says today. I called for commencing the process of adding dji a chinese drone provider to the fccs covered list. Dji development thats a covered list – marcus. Well it it. I know he. I just looked that up to try and figure that out myself ron. I do know that huawei is on that, so i i believe it will restrict the sale of uh of dji products, so lets leave the mavic 3. Well, i i i dont, i cant, you know i dont know precisely ron im. Just i just thought you guys would be interested in this. It just came down just a few minutes. It says: dji drones collect trolls, obsessive data from images of the us critical infrastructure.
Uh to sensing body temperature and heart rates right, we cant afford an airborne huawei and then, if i click on this, this just goes into detail about the national security risks of dji uh so bill. I apologize for interrupting your conversation. No! No! No, but i thought you guys would really uh, while you were marcus issuing this statement again and what what what body of the government is he associated with the federal communications commission. So, yes, you can say people that are that are approved as database thats thats right. So so i looked up what is the covered list and you guys can see it right here. Section 1.5002 of the commissions rules directs the public safety and homeland security bureau to publish a list of communications equipment and service covered lists that are deemed to pose an unacceptable risk to the national security of the united states, security and safety of the united states. Persons based on i could click on that if you want me to, but i think at the end of the day the fact that we know that huawei is on that list and you cannot buy a huawei phone in this country. You cannot buy huawei communications equipment, uh, so uh yeah, im just im just saying i. I suspect this probably isnt good for our hobby. Let me interject here for a second and marcus. Thank you so much for sharing this tonight um. You know one of the things that i can tell you from my ham: radio experience: okay um, they have theres a company called balfong, okay and they make handheld people call them.
Walkie talkies theyre, not walkie, talkies theyre, actually theyre, actually theyre called hts or hand takis, and they are ham radios and one of the things that they got in trouble for was with the fcc. Was their output was too high? Okay, youre limited to five watts. With these radios, they were cranking out. Eight ten. God knows how much power, okay, which in and of itself you know, if you think about it, its not bad, but if youre holding it up and talking to this, those waves are going through your head. Okay and its, it is its just, not good, and they got put on a list theres some there theres some you try to go, buy them on it. You try to go, buy them and try to get them its, unfortunately, its a little too easy to get them, because our friends like banggood and aliexpress and so forth, sell them and theres no restrictions on getting them in when they should be restricted and they are From the fcc, so they still make it into the united states now yeah well theres. Some comments out in the chat saying didnt steven ewing is saying didnt this happen before well, they got put on the entity list and what that is is that they can theres certain uh parts, electronic devices that they cant buy from united states suppliers thats. What the entity list is uh, so this is different and i know i i wish i could tell you.
The exact definition is something well have to research. All of us well yeah, but i do know they say. Huawei is on that list and uh. If, if, if thats the case – and let me say this, if this is truly the security risk that they deem it to be – i i dont want to contribute to that. Do you guys? No, no none of us well, i do. I do want to know for sure that uh this, that put the security risk, is based on actual information and not just not just on the fact that it could be totally agree. And again, i want to make sure that everybody in here knows uh john cooper brought this to my attention and and uh. Thank you, john. Thank you, john yeah, for bringing that up. Yeah. You know one of the things that i want to kind of interject here and thank you, john. Oh, you know. We appreciate that you know with this. I dont think this is something that can go into effect like right now, okay, i dont think this is something that we can just say were stopping it: okay, completely stopping sales heres, some here, theres some food for thought, all right. You know, and i can and im going to go on on a limb. I bet. If we talk to rick smith, he he could probably give us the skinny on it, because he is an electrical engineer and he knows this.
Okay, tell me how a dji drone like a mavic 2, an air 2s and so forth. Okay, sensitive infrastructure in the country – and you know information. You know im at a loss. You know what im saying guys yeah. No, i i totally get what youre saying a lot of sense of infrastructure. No fly zone, anyways yeah, i mean you, know, theyre theyre equipped and you know theres a lot of people that that would be itch and they do when they cant fly within. You know. Five miles of an airport and they have to get a waiver and all this okay and you know, theres no, no fly zones and thats why a lot of people have bought autel and you know and thats going away as far as far as hotel is concerned. So you know im just im im not seeing this here. I i just understand is almost all our cell phones are made in china and all those cell phones go. This go places, drones cant, go, they go, they can go to sensitive infrastructure and be allowed to film yeah reward devices and they theres a theres millions, billions more cell phones as countries taking pictures of videos and getting online and write by pennies companies that can be Sent back to china so ron, what youre saying is exactly why you cant buy a huawei phone in this country right. So so what im? What im saying is uh, you know.
Clearly, i i just dont think they would be doing this for the fun of it and actually mark is i i i dont. I didnt follow the huaweis through our way through, but when i did file the story that the problem was more with the huawei internet. Routers and and router devices they were the ones who were really worried about, i mean, but the routers was the big concentration of the government yeah yeah. They were because because local telcos uh what what huawei did is they they were able to they copied quite frankly, products from erickson and other european companies and american companies. They literally copied stuff from cisco and so forth, and then improved on it. They did their own engineering and improved on it and were selling it cheaper than uh than than what you could buy. They literally kind of ran the competition out of business, but when they investigated these things, they found out that a lot of that information was going back to china, so yeah and and thats thats. The point i think bill – and i are trying to make i mean – is maybe the government cant say yet, because maybe secret information, but they did say the wobbly actually found chips and things that were doing this. But as far as i know, the us government has not, you know, found any chips, whatever any mechanical devices in these dji drones, that they are saying that are doing this stuff.
Now i remember, and i think it was i dont im not sure if it was february or january, there was another independent audit of dji of their drones and they did not find anything with dji drones. Now you know that the army stopped using them, and i can you know what i can understand the armed forces not using something like a dji drone. I get it. I understand that all right um, you know – i understand, maybe even like i know they stopped like um the forestry service uh.