How are is everybody tonight uh we got a a pretty good show tonight we called uh hold on folks. I forgot to mute. The uh forgot to mute the thing on the other screen here that happens ron and that always takes. It always takes ten clicks to mute that other sound, Din păcate, but but yeah folks, Uh, we got a big show tonight. We call it uh the the year of the mini here uh. You know we have the uh mavic uh, you know the the mini two from dji. We got the uh, the new phoebe mini and then uh hubs has got a mini coming out. So it is the year of the mini and speaking of that um we have marcus. He who’s looking like air photography tonight, is going to do a live unboxing of a new mini drone tonight, so that’s coming up in just a second here, but i do want to um give you guys a little preview. We have a big guest joining us tonight. Uh with all this stuff going on with all these drones and this new hofstra drone in specs, only one person out there in industry could kind of you know give you know kind of just slide everything together and make sense of all this information coming out. So uh in a few minutes uh bill, the german viewer will be uh joining us to try to figure out all what’s what’s going on here with all these new drones of these minis.
But so i don’t do a lot of wasted time here, we’re going to throw it right to marcus and he’s going to start his unboxing video marcus. Take it away. Brother yeah, hey thanks ron! So i’ve got my camera adjusted looking down right here. Doing the air, photography style and uh let’s just unbox this thing live, i told ron i might as well unbox it on drone nation tonight. So now, when did this package show up marcus it showed up about three hours ago. Maybe something like that who and who brought that package to you: Uh, the us post office, u.s postal service, the the our heroes down at the uh local post office, da, da, da, all right folks. Are you ready folks for this unboxing? I i got my blade. Bine, that’s a safety blade right, yeah yeah. Oh your standards, drone guy is telling us a year’s, an echo ron, but uh echo, yeah echo, so i don’t know where that’s coming from but uh in any case, Uh. Let me yeah, i mean i had we. We had a terrible apple here a few minutes ago, yeah that, but we knew why that was huh. So let me uh, let me i’m just going right ahead and digging in here ron: Bine, while you’re doing that i’m gon na bring in build a drone, reviewer let’s see here. Let me hit the magic button here, all the way from sunny florida drone reviewer.
In my room in in my state of confusion, room that’s what i’m not calling it the den it’s my state of confusion right now, so yeah that’s, where we’re at got a new location to fly. You probably saw my first video i’m really stoked about what two minutes from my house two minutes, can’t beat it excellent. Ei bine, i break this unboxing we’ll go over that in a minute now marcus said that’s what’s that top cover sheet there that’s a thank you. Da. Look at that. Mulțumesc. I thank you. Thank you and, like others have reported, this is a nice padded box that they that they put it in here uh. Is that bad good quality boxing yeah wow? Thank you card with a hundred dollar discount coupon on the back nah just kidding how’d you go in there didn’t, i yeah okay, let’s dump this guy out, maybe yeah it’s slowly, but that air yeah. Dar oricum., i did uh wanted to show you the box here, because i’ve seen others unbox it they, as opposed to what we’ve seen in the past i’ve got beamy drones that have actually been literally crushed before, because they throw them in that bag. Yeah yeah. Ei bine, did you get a messed up drill for bad good? They threw it in the bag. o, da, my femi was, it was fine, but boy it was within an inch. It was close. Hey marcus got that the original phoebe i thought they said the orange one.
Wasn’T available yet well for marcus crawford. It is nah. Ah, Bine, Uh, Bine, let me uh. Let me let me slice this baby up. Primul, we got to get the uh. The cellophane off that’ll be easy bill. Do you have any tracking information on your feed? Mă? EU SUNT, not i was gon na, not no emails from b h b. H said that they have, they said in stock may third, so uh, i imagine it’s going to be shortly it really. It should be any day now. So this is the usual anybody. That’S ever received a uh femi drone. That is the kind of sticker they put on there. That tells you a little bit about the controls and they use that to seal their boxes. Uh that’s standard for those of us that uh order a beamy drone once in a while, so we kept that open – hopefully we’re done with this, with this blade: i’m dangerous with uh with knives. Quite frankly, ah, look at this. Oh look at that. Iată-ne., and that is uh. This is also a typical this little pad right here, and then they put a a qr code for the uh for the app there, which is cool and uh there. She is let’s pull her out. Does it come with the propellers already on? It does comes with propellers already on the uh as i’ve seen with others, the the uh gimbal cover was not attached, but it was down in there i’ve seen other some people blame that on customs.
Or do you think that just fell off and shipping? I i i bet you they never even installed to begin with ron uh, so there it is. I mean it it’s uh. I i like the fact that it’s a unique design right, este, not it doesn’t, look like a mavic mini uh. First question marcus: does it feel heavier than a mini it? It doesn’t build because you know they are. We know they’re about the same way. You know this is a couple grams heavier, but i should is the battery in the drone marcus yeah. It feels like the battery is in there and i’m going to have to figure out how to uh. Here it is no you’re not going to figure it out, because you only have one battery. You just keep you there yeah. Ei bine, i was just trying to figure out how to uh. Can you charge the? Can you charge the battery in the drone or do you have to take it out ron? I just got the thing i don’t know yet, but i’m gon na sorry for the all these questions, but but marcus acquiring minds want to know. ştiu – and i hear you i i suspect you could charge it in the drone. That would be my guess, but but i see the sd card slot and uh that looks like a micro usb slot underneath it. So i don’t know if that’s for firmware updates. Ei bine, it wouldn’t be for charging, because it’s going to be well, no it’s not covered up no yeah hold it.
Is it covered up geez? I got to figure out how to even get the battery back in yeah, so it’s not covered up. When you have the battery in there, so i suspect you can charge it uh that’s, bun, that’s good, because but both the mini one and two were both. You could both charge them with the drone in the with a battery in the drone, correct, da, yeah and it’s got it’s. I see it’s got a cover there, uh on the uh on the gimbal so i’m, not going to take that off right now, but let’s see what’s in the rest of this box. Take a look at the uh controller. Let me set that aside for just a second and uh. Sigur că da., we have uh the uh, the the unreadable uh at least for an old guy. Ca mine, you think i can read that i’m gon na have to put it in a freaking microscope guys. Let me get my microscope out: yeah i’m, an old guy. Bine! Let me get this thing out of here: îmi pare rău, guys so there’s the controller and it’s. Just what we’ve seen in the pictures you know, you’re the the the antenna are stuck on one side. So so all the electronics are on this side and then this other side, just uh, pulls out, but you know again anybody that is familiar with uh with femi. Drones is familiar with this style of controller. This is a smaller version of the x8 controller.
Este, it looks like it’s about probably a uh, two thirds the size or less and there’s the gimbal sticks down there. So i won’t not a lot of buttons on here. You got return to home, you got power and then on the back. You’Ve got uh record and uh and photograph, so everything else well, Desigur, desigur, then a gimbal wheel, so everything else yeah is going to be on the uh is going to be on the uh app so yeah. It feels like the same good quality as the x8 controller. It feels good yeah. nu, it does it. It feels really good ron uh. Then then, i know there’s a bag in here that has some props and screwdrivers. We won’t right. We don’t we don’t need to see that now. Is it true that does not come with the charger. There is no charger in here, nope, nu, so uh so which which, which again is okay. I mean you know how many of us uh. You know if you don’t have a few of these high speed chargers around that you know. nu! nu! That means you’re not a little drone guy. If you don’t have a few others yeah. If you order, if you order the the mini, if you were the mini, would say the mini two or many one, if you ordered a non fly market, did it come with a charger uh the dji yeah i don’t yeah, i don’t know ron huh i’ve.
I forget: i had the mini one on fly more, but i forget if it came with the charger or not yeah, so so i want to thank marcus for that. Este.. The brunette live unboxing uh, the phoebe midi on air, a first here on drone nation. Our first uh video, unboxing yeah kind of fun, so yeah so yeah, just let’s just go ahead with the show run and i’ll uh, while we’re doing that you mess around with it yeah and i’ll, get out the uh i’ll get out the the mini two and We can kind of hold them up side by side, da, good good, so i i want to give bill a full welcome in here, as bill mentioned, he’s in a new uh, a new office now and he’s got a new flying field. I love that new fly. I feel all that green around it i mean. I know you used to have the water but it’s kind of nice to see that all that green, you throw oh it’s in what’s real nice is where we were going when i was going straight, and i would stop at the end of the green found out That that’s um that’s a big um like produce type of farm that’s over there and it’s all farmland. So i you know there there’s just like a warehouse there. I could drive like fly right over the warehouse right over into there. There’S no problem, nu e, no houses.
There can see my house from where i took off from which was very cool, and this area is just so quiet and peaceful up there there’s not a lot of people there, which is great and it’s like. I said, it’s two minutes from where i live. You can’t beat it and, and it will i’ll get some gorgeous sunsets from up there because it’s, like i got kind of got to do one of these to go to point it west, but i’m, just i’m tickled pink. I i could not be more excited and, and the best part about all this was my videographer – is back valerie’s back with me, Bine, and that was fantastic. She loved it. She had a good time. We had a lot of fun, good good and luckily, since it’s quiet out there, you have the uh air dress with the quiet props. Now so you can. You can stay quiet in that quiet, environment, Oh, da, you know i i there’s there’s, not enough superlatives. For me about the air to say anything, but my ultimate litmus test, it’s gon na be a sunset and i’m gon na have i’m gon na take both of my drones up i’m gon na see if i can get both of them up at the same time, And see what kind of sunset i can get, i know i’m going to be be playing with fire, because i only have one phone and i i don’t know how i’m going to get it done, but i’m going to figure out a way, and i want to See that ultimate litmus test, but i’ll, tell you what i was messing around with the zoom the other day.
That’S going to be my next video, i love that zoom it was it was. It was spot on accurate can’t, beat it the sport mode. I don’t know to me: Bine, i’m gon na say this. It felt, and i know what the speed was it was registered. It felt like it was the fastest drone i’ve ever owned. Bine, it feels faster, doesn’t it bill i’m, tired. I can’t hear it. You look at the speedometer it’s the same speed, but it feels faster. Știi, știi, nu-mi place, i’m watching that video and it’s just like wow, and i wonder if it has anything to do with ocusync 3 Um. If there’s, that latency there is like almost no latency and that’s. Probably why we think it’s going so fast it just is it just seemed really fast. I mean i watched it again. You know not only from my screen recording but from but from the recording from the camera, and it really seemed like it was just. It was faster than any other drone i’ve had it really did uh bill. I agree and uh. I was just talking to giant drone fly this morning and i think it feels much faster in normal flying mode. de fapt, i will go to sport mode even less down because it’s so much faster in normal mode, este, almost fast enough in normal mode that i don’t need sport mode anymore. o, da, da, the normal mode. When i was valerie goes, did you turn into sport mode, and i said no, i said it’s just in normal mode right now she said really, i said yeah and she says that’s fast, that’s really fast and you were mentioning about it being quiet.
Știi, știi, nu-mi place. I always kind of gauge at about how many you know how many feet out. I can hear it when it when it’s coming away. It was until it was less than 100 feet before i could hear actually hear the drone when it was when i had when i was doing return to home, which really impressed me okay. So you know all in all. This has been a huge huge home run for dji. I can’t say enough about it and i’m just i’m i’m anxious to get a sunset right now i mean i know it’s early days here but uh. You know uh, like a couple. Other big youtube channels already said: do you think it’s the best drone they’ve ever made it has the potential to be? It really does, and you know i i at first and i got to say this – you know how much i like billy and ken okay and ken comes out and he says he’s selling his mavic 2 pro and i’m. Like i know ken and i’m, like okay, you know he’ll he’ll do he’ll do what he wants. He’Ll he’ll he’ll he’ll. He wants to do his channel right all the time. Okay and i know, but i know billy and billy came out and he said the same thing and i’ll tell you what okay that made me stop right there and i’m saying you know what i think billy’s on to something and then when i went took that Up for the first flight i’m, like i’m, trying to find something wrong with it, and i can’t you know: you’ve had a you know.
You have a great drone when you’re, when you’re looking and nitpicking and trying to find things and you can’t find it okay. Let me go out there guys so so now to be fair, i have never owned a drone like you guys, have both owned. Some of those higher end drones, like ron, has the autel evo 2 pro, and you guys are both that have the mavic 2 pro i’ve never owned either of those kind of products so here’s. What i’m going to tell you this uh, mavic or excuse me this air 2s, is by far the the most versatile, the best drone that i have ever owned. That includes the skydio. I love my skydio in a different way, but as if, when we said this before about the air too, if somebody told me i could only own one drone at this point i’m telling you it would be the air 2s i wouldn’t even have to think about It uh it’s just an amazing piece of technology marcus. I haven’t said this to you yet, but you know you put a couple: videos outside don’t know which order it was, but the one video you know with the s when you’re coming up the canyon and you’re saying to watch for like the uh, you know the Uh, the raves and stuff in the side of the canyon there that was the best clearance video you’ve ever taken of the canyon. Any drone, like you know before you would tell me to look at stuff in the canyon, and i really couldn’t see it clear enough, but with that, as you came up with that s, that was that was the clearest video i’ve ever seen of the cabinet you’ve.
Ever taken yeah, so that was that was recorded in in 5.4 and i did see the ravens and i did and i rendered it down to 4k right, uh and uh. The other point that i wanted to make ron is: i noticed that, even though the evo 2 calls it 6k, the the air 2s and the evo 2, really their top resolution is almost identical. It’S five point: Patru, something by seven: îmi pare rău, dreptul de, yeah and but the other thing is ron help me with this. I also noticed when i was looking i use. As you know, i use that magix movie edit pro to edit my videos. I could find no equivalent to render into of that specific resolution, and i know you have the same issue with imovie and with final cut. Is there any yeah yeah you you you i you know you. I just chose to write them in the 5k rather than 6k got you yeah, so uh yeah, i just chose to render it there and uh a small i’m glad. You brought that up but bill. Maybe you could chime in this too, like i found that imovie, which is the uh kind of consumer version of final cut like um it it had a little. It had a problem rendering the 5.4k video out of the um, the s drone i’m, just going to say the s drone for the rest tonight, but when i threw it in the final cut, Desigur, desigur, the more professional app had no problems, rendering the um the 5.
4K, build you experience any problems, rendering the 5.4k out of the uh, the s drone yet yeah. nu, we need to stop for just one second bill, because we need everybody to know that you use davinci. Is that correct resolve your resolve? 16.. I haven’t upgraded to 17.. I had zero problems with it, none whatsoever, but one of the big things and a lot of people don’t do this. Bine! Now you know when you’re importing it when you’re putting it on your timeline and snapping it there it’ll ask you: do you want to keep it at the center resolution that it’s at or the resolution that’s on your timeline? Okay and you got to answer that carefully. În caz contrar, you’re going to have problems uploading it i can tell or not even uploading it just getting it to render okay. If you, you got to answer that question right, because if you don’t all right, you want to make that okay, you you don’t, want to mess with those clips. You just bring them in. Let it be okay, and usually okay, de exemplu, that clip is the um screen recording okay that’s, not at 4k that’s, not that maybe 1080 Sunt., not even sure, Bine, but you know what i’m not not going gon na mess with it i’m gon na. Let it go because, when you mess with things like that that’s, when you have all kind of problems rendering um i was reading some things about about that when i was having some rendering issues before and the guy said in a video, he said.
Don’T do anything. Just import it the way it is so i noticed uh hot rod is saying that da vinci will handle up to 8k. Ei bine, so will this magix movie edit pro, but i guess what i was getting at. Is it what i could have rendered in one of those higher forms, but it changed the aspect ratio of the video, so i declined to do that that’s why i went with 4k anyway, i’m no expert at all. Ei bine, Stii tu, and also too i’m, not sure what the highest that youtube can can play it back at. I know i know they have 4k um. I think they have 6k and i think that’s about it. I don’t think they can go over six counts. I believe 6k, is it bill? I’Ve heard that so you can’t, so you can’t so it’s like you know, don’t even don’t. Even i mean you can attempt it for your own good if you want, but for you know, trying to put it out for everybody else. No that’s not gon na work, okay well and the other thing that we should mention here and ron. I know your uh uh imac monitor, will go up to 5k, dar – and i have a 4k monitor – and i think you do too bill, but it’s, not there. Aren’T, very many people in fact, most monitors are, Stii tu: 1080 monitors so yeah, yeah that’s. De ce? I watched your you know your video.
I said the side of the canyon i was watching on the big 27 inch 5k monitor, so it was looking real, real nice yeah. I had it up on the my 43 inch samsung here in 4k and it was crisp. It was clear and see that’s the thing about about this video from from from the air 2s. Okay um. Știi, știi, nu-mi place – and i think ron probably mentioned it in his comment on my video, the the colors just absolutely just popped out – i mean they were just i mean even it was like 6 30 at night or or whatever. Whatever time we were out there, it the colors just popped, they were just they were just crisp. It was clear, the details were just sharp, i mean it was just it just jumped right out at you. I mean there was just no denying it and what i liked was when i was doing you know, i did the return to home and you know it got into the sun just a tad okay and i like how quick that camera jumped right back where it, Where it needed to be, i mean there was just it was an instant. It saw the sun, it adjusted itself, and then it got right back to where it was that processor. On there, our buddy, cliff he’s right that processor on there is, is top notch. Yeah and uh bill on that note, you know about the colors being christmas, sharp and all were you surprised that they took the hdr mode away from the s as opposed to the regular air ii a little, but with what they added to the s? I can kind of see why, Bine, they probably had to talk, they probably had had had a had, had a had a grease board on there and some things that weren’t gon na make it okay, and you know what i think, that’s an acceptable compromise with everything Else that they added onto the s one thing that i noticed when i took just photographs with it, you know how you have with uh with the air 2 and the air 2s, you can take a regular photograph or – and i think they call it super or Something like that you, but where it does uses computational photography to enhance the picture it’s, not hdr, but it’s kind of a similar thing when i took it in both of those modes, i could hardly tell a difference between the pictures and, of course i was shooting In mid day, but uh, it tells me that that one inch sensor, probably uh, probably has a lot to do with that.
Smart photo chris, just uh answered yeah uh, so i could not tell any difference between smart photo and and the regular picture. Bine, really huh. Yeah i haven’t taken any pictures with mine. Yet so i mean that’s that’s coming up on it on the table, but the other thing that that i really like too – and this is and and i’m going to go back and – and i know our buddy johnny drone flyer posted it today about about the anaphy Um on wu having a uh refurbished sale, Bine, what reminded me of the anafi so much was how responsive the sticks were. Okay now you know, i told rick smith. When i had a when i, when i flew his anathi, i was just so impressed with how responsive the sticks were to the input. Bine. This is the same on the s. The responsiveness on those sticks were just i mean when i let go it stopped when i was stopped going up, it stopped going up when i stopped going down it stopped going down. There was like almost no hesitancy and no lag with that. Absolutely well. You set me up with that. Anafi comment. Ah no, i know. nu, i just saw that um johnny drone flyer had posted that out there on woot and i’m. Like man, you know my cash supply is a little on the low side right now. În caz contrar, i i may, i may have dip dipped into that into that pool um, but another 300 bucks bill.
I i bought one. I did it. I pulled the trigger 300 bucks that’s a cool little drone. I sold the one that i had before and regretted it. You know i there’s so many features on that drone and you know what’s going to have to live up to the. What that drone can do. These guys are going to have to live up to what that, what that enough, he can do and it’s a three year old, trântor. Ei bine, i’ll tell you what guys and i don’t know if you saw this or not um our, but i i know marcus has watched him. I think ron. You probably watched him too. His name’s steve um. He said the mini great guy, great yeah, that freaking horizon tilt i’m, telling you man i’m, telling you i i was just like you know. I figured you know who was it? Who said, i think matt and matt. We love you, Bine. I know you your buddy said yeah. They got all this taken care of yeah they didn’t i’m. Like man, you know what i want to get a rubber mallet out right now, when it comes, i may just smash it i’m just kidding, but you know i saw that and i’ll tell you what i was just like no, but i i watched a little video Just today and he used to make videos, i don’t know what which one. But he said he did a firmware, update and seemed to help the horizon issue.
And on top of that, i watched one video where he must have yelled around 10 times in a row and it calls to have a crooked horizon, but it didn’t do it until he did all that crazy, yelling, yeah yeah. I saw that too so. That’S our friend uh steve jones, over in the uk, and where is he where is he located marcus we’ve, been in the uk or the northern part of the uk, and your leads right dear leeds that’s, exactly right and he uh he his most recent video. Just like what you said ron, he spent the whole time just yawing the drone in circles and yeah. She really couldn’t see anything so, but here’s here’s going to be the test bill to your point. This is going to be the test and i’m going to do this i’m, going to take this guy out to the canyon and and we’re going to fly it sideways across that face of that canyon and if the, if the gimbal can stay flat and look good Under those conditions, i’ll be good with it that’s a good litmus test, that’s a very religious speech. îmi place. Ei bine, Bine, let’s, let’s, stop let’s talk about the uh, the outfit, the room bill! Uh! You know we we got a. We got a sneak preview. I guess a couple weeks ago that that uh, our good friends ever helps to make a new product and then last friday they finally dropped their um i’m gon na call it their promo video of all promo videos.
I mean um, they came out with a you know, a xenomini pro and they came out with a feature set that bd they beat the uh. They beat the mini two in every phase. Yeah um did you get the chance to watch the video yet, but i watched the video and – and i tell you what you know and then and then and then you, you kind of you kind of zoned me in ron and and it really kind of clicked. Bine, remember wendy’s and where’s the beef, Bine, it’s the same thing here: okay where’s, the worst where’s, the video where’s, The. Where, where do we see actually see one okay? Is it just cgi right now? Is it in production? How long is it gon na be okay? These are all kind of questions. I know you guys did a show on this well bill. We we, we i’ve, seen a couple of clues. We may we may you, and i may personally know somebody that’s testing one. Ah, oh i forgot to put my uh my uh nda box away here. îmi pare rău, îmi pare rău, uh cops said i didn’t mean to leave here cleverly written with nda on there. How about oh yeah yeah, Stii tu. So i cannot talk about the druidness box here, but uh yeah. I i think uh akira show has probably one of the best comments here: he’s calling it hubsan’s impossible, yeah impossible. You know it’s it’s it’s. You know my dad if it’s too good to be true.
It probably is okay and you know i’m, îmi pare rău, Bine, i i i had the xeno one, okay and flew it um. I had the xeno two i didn’t fly, but i you know, i sold it. Bine, it just it just you can’t i’m, just i trying to wrap my head around this. Bine, în regulă. They come out with something and it’s, just not good as it’s better in every area than dji’s i mean it’s. The drone of drones, let’s get specific here. So so one of the things, some of the things that i noticed about it is uh. They were talking about uh, obstacle avoidance and they showed front and rear obstacle avoidance and downward facing obstacle avoidance here’s. The thing if, if dj, if you think about weight, the drone has to be under 250 grams and if dji could have figured out how to do that wouldn’t they have done it and then all those other features that are in there and i listen. I hope it’s real and i hope, it’s everything that they say it is but i’m trying to also be a little bit of a realist here and also listen. I like hubsan products, i’ve owned, just like with the femi i’ve owned them all the way up since. Ei bine, the ss, the that i i still to this day, consider the original xeno one of the best bargains out there in the drone world. I i really enjoy that drone love the way it flies.
I think they refined it over a period of time that it was a good product uh, but but what we know about hubsan is they’re, always a work in progress, so at least everything in the past they’ve they’ve never shipped anything ready to fly. I guess that’s my way to just say: Bine, let me ask you guys: Bine, what if uh you know hobson does knock it out the park this time, what they do deliver this drone. It has all the features in this video and they all actually work. How much would you be willing to how much how high would you go to pay for a drone like that? Ei bine, as certainly as much as i paid for this, if they had the two battery or three battery fly more kit we’ll just to make it easy? We’Re, just sticking with a with a base kit of a of a drone, a battery and a charger. Five big five yeah yeah, i would say: 4.99 da. I agree yeah marcus. I both kind of keep up with that price, Deoarece, Fapt, if they, if they deliver this drone, it’s kind of it, even though it’s a mini at 249 grams or less it’s, halfway to at least the older air, too yeah as far as specs, it is a Better cat on paper, it has a better camera than the first air too, and what about? nu? What about the 40 minutes of feet so you’ll have, as far as i know, of the consumer drones it’ll next it’ll tie the uh all tel evo 2 pro as the longest battery life on a consumer drone at four minutes.
So let me tell you that i have the uh the hubsan uh xeno pro plus, you always got ta. Think of these names yeah. It has that big battery that sticks out of the back of it and they claim hubsan claims a 43 minute de zbor timp. With that i stand corrected yeah i can get flying that drone about and of course i fly with a pretty heavy stick. You guys all know that, so i never get what’s advertising don’t expect to, but that drone i get about 20 minutes out of so and that’s that’s, the next thing. So what adds weight to one of these little drones right? We all know it’s this guy it’s, the battery, Oh, da, and so, if you’re gon na put a 40 baterie minut, what kind of magic elixir did they come up with? They either had to make these motors and and the escs super efficient or come up with some kind of battery technology, adică, bigger and still get under that 250 gram weight, and you know who i can see scratching his head right now over all this. Our good friend rick smith, because you know he’s an engineer and he was in and he’s just he’s, probably doing one of these and i’m like yeah. You know i don’t, i don’t know about this bill. You know because he knows, Deoarece, because he talked about how the cells are plated, okay and how and how the how the batteries work.
Because – and i think that was a great when he was on the show once he talked about that and how that works. Bine – and he said there’s only so much – you can do in a given space with those batteries. Bine, you just you can’t, you can’t it’s, it’s physics, este, just you know until they develop something else, there’s only so much. You can do with that. Guy with that kind of a space, so you know what, if hubsan has done it? Bine, then i’m gon na be sign me up i’m buying it i’m gon na get it here as soon as possible uh. But i have the funny feeling, like you guys know, that the beta testers are gon na, be those that are making the the first buyers of it that’s. What i think yeah our friend the drone guy, is saying that it will be priced under five hundred dollars. Bine, yeah well yeah again, este. Definitely if it can do most of what these specs say: este, definitely worth the uh we’ll say: 4.99 now uh bill. You talked about here from rick’s business. Have you heard from your buddy frank wang? Is he shaking his shoes over the announcement of this drone frank’s, not real, happy right now, i can tell you that okay, i i wouldn’t want to beat engineer. Dji they’re, probably catching a year, fall from frank right because they didn’t. Let me in on the call this week and because they said frank was letting the four letter words fly in mandarin and it was not a pretty sight, este, absolutely not a pretty sight, because he’s telling he’s gon na.
Practic, i heard he’s telling the boys they got to go back to the drawing board right now to get a mini three out. They he doesn’t. He says he said there’s no way. Hubsan is going to beat us no way no way so we live in the age of the minis. Now don’t we, da, we do. Do you think that many drones are taking over bill? I mean we’re all worried about the the mavic uh mavic 3 and whatever, but is this? Is this the air of the mini drone? nu, because look at the air 2 s, Bine, adică, not a mini drone um. It will never be a mini drone um. You know but it’s a it’s a lot smaller than your father’s mavic it’s, a lot of fault smalling, your father’s mavic, but you know many drones – have their place. Okay and and i’m going to say this you’re going to find many drones are perfect for the hobbyist. The enthusiast, the casual photographer, Bine, sunt, absolutely perfect for that. Bine, the big caveat with mini drones is all the time all the time you know and i don’t care who makes it whether it’s dji, whether it’s fee me whether it’s, verifica, Bine, Vânt, Bine, este, just a matter of physics, Baieti: Bine, 240. I was going to go out and fly yesterday all right, and i noticed my my app was telling me it was right at clock and right at 24 25 mile pe oră, and i looked at the at the wind limit on the air 2s.
Acesta a fost 25 mile pe oră, so i didn’t go out yesterday all right, but these guys, Bine, if it’s more than 15 sau 20 forget it you’re, not gon na you might as well. Don’T even don’t even push the sticks together and take off, because these are not gon na handle the wind. Ei bine, you could have fooled me because i i flew it the other day down in the canyon with 37 mile an hour gusts, and i took it out over over heroes park, and i i got 27 mile an hour gusts with 50 miles to stain, and i Flew the mini 2 and literally had no issues at all, but that said bill, I, your your. Your remarks are spot on they’re not going to fly as well in the wind as a as a more powerful heavier drone, and the point that i wanted to make on this thing is: it is not a sub 250 gram drone as it ships maybe someday they’ll, Have their magic battery, but currently this is 257 grams or 255 grame. Something like that, so you’re gon na have to put your sticker on there. No matter what and uh i mean personally, Sunt.. Okay with it, i i’m gon na put my sticker on it. No matter what but well here’s my i told marcus they’re to mark the style of reviewing. He only has one battery to do to do all those quick shots, testing, marcus you’re, going to have to work double time to get your reviews done with that one battery yeah no that’s a good point uh, because the the other thing you know is, we know It’S, how tough it is to ship uh batteries uh, and so when am i ever gon na be able to buy uh another battery for this guy i mean hopefully it’s something that they’ll they’ll they’ll ship, a batch of them over the u.
s and then and then We’Ll be able to buy them out of a u.s warehouse or otherwise you’re going to wait 35 la 40 zile, because when i got my phoenix 8se 2020 Bine, i had ordered. I had ordered a couple extra batteries and that’s. I had to wait 30 la 30 35 days before they got here. So you know in a point on the wind. Bine, for you all right, you’re you’re, what i consider a professional drone pilot. Bine, you can know you know how to handle that wind, Bine, nu e! No and and ron – and i the same way: Bine, we know what to do and i’m sure from your you had you had your your lesson with the with the original mini on the wind, so you know what you’re doing okay, but a lot of these people That are going up to best buy saying you know, i’ll, take that in the counter they don’t have a clue about how to fly in the wind they don’t have. A clue is how this handles up there: Bine, deci asta e, why they need like the 10 la 15 mile an hour wind or no more, Bine, us we can handle it yeah well, but the point you’re making is a good one bill. We they were they’re not as robust or as powerful as some of the other drones uh drone guy just pointed out that they have dji gives them both the same wind rating, the air 2s and the mini two.
But it really isn’t the same thing and and like you said we all. We all know that hey mark is uh, Stii tu, hobson, you know the the the xeno mini pro. You know what was missing in his specs. They never mentioned a win rating in those specs that’s a good point that’s in, and you know what the same with this guy did they mention it when i can’t remember i’d have to go back and look, i think they did but i’m, not positive. You know what else you didn’t, you know what they never mentioned in the uh in the zeno mini uh thing. They never mentioned a gimbal. I guess we’ve reached a point where we, they you take a three axis gimbal for granted: este, not even it’s, not even a topic. They even it’s, not even a uh. You know something new even worth mentioning. You just accept that hey every new drone has a three axis gimbal, so that’s kind of a good point bill we’ve reached the point where the three axis gimbal is is required. Almost yeah it’s like it’s, like you know why even put it down you know, let’s put other other information in there kind of a thing, because everybody assumes when you’re talking. You know at this. This type of drone let’s say these mini series of drones. Bine, that all of them are going to have a axis gimbal: Bine, you’re gon na get left you’re getting left off the you know off the internet.
If you release a drone nowadays for any well four hundred dollars over it, doesn’t have a three axis gimbal right. o, da, nobody and, and who, who would who would want to spend the money? Bine, you spend 400 to get a drone. Bine, it better have a three axis: Gimbal, Bine, better have one or i’m not buying it. Bine, the other thing that’s worth mentioning that you know you can’t see just by looking at pictures, but what i will say about this guy is the build. Quality feels really good. It feels substantial, and i mean it feels just as good as the dji product. You know there’s doesn’t there’s, nothing on it. That gives you a flimsy feeling or or so that’s a good sign that looks that looks real good. I want to. I want to share a little bit of a story here and let me oh yeah, yeah we’ll call this bill’s tail whoa here yeah. This is this, is show and tell okay. Acum, hopefully this will. This will show up i’m going to show this right here now. Can you guys see this one right here, it’s damaged okay. Now this is the charging base that i got and the other two aren’t. Now this is the charging base. I got with the air 2s, în regulă. Deci, like any good, Stii tu – and i did it after after my unboxing – i went through and i looked at everything, and that was the only thing that was you know, kind of questionable.
Deci, like a good person who knows what he’s doing i emailed dji support us all right, they opened, you know they. They replied back with with the ticket number all right, and then i heard from viva all right and viva told me. You package up your drone as it was originally shipped we’ll, send you a label and in five days we’ll, send you a new drum and i’m like time out here. Bine, this is what’s wrong. Bine, my drone is fine there’s, no issues with my drone. Ei bine, this is what we do. Bine, so today i call up support all right on on hold for about 10 minutes finally get through. Oh, nu, you have to send the whole drone back to get and i’m like. Okay again, i said i want to be real clear here: nu e, not a problem with the drone here, Oameni buni, Bine, the problem is with this charging base. I just want you to send me a new charging base. Let me send you the charging base back and you can send me a new one, no we’ll repair the charging base and send it back to you. EU SUNT, like okay, wait a minute here. This is brand new okay. This is brand new here guys. I don’t want this repaired. I want a brand new one. Ei bine, the only way you can get a brand new one is to send the drone back and i’m. Like five days, i said, that’s not acceptable.
în regulă. You know i had priority shipping uh. Știi, știi, nu-mi place. I was supposed to get it overnight and now you’re telling me five days all right, so i asked her another question. Let’S say another accessory goes bad all right, it breaks or whatever. So is it the same for that she says yes it’s the same for that. So i said, can i speak to your supervisor? Ei bine, he’s, going to tell you the same thing. Ei bine, you know what let me tell him and let me hear him say the same thing. Ei bine, he can call you back in 24 la 48 ore. I said fine, please do it, so moral of the story is okay. I am gon na buy another one of these it’s gon na cost me about 50 de dolari, 60 de dolari, Bine, but the moral the story is to do like, probably like, like i should have done. Ei bine, i i had 85 in dji care credit, aproape 100 de dolari, okay and like marcus. I don’t want to let you know: este, like it’s, burning a hole in in my digital wallet all right, so i got ta i’m gon na go ahead and spend it all right. So i did that and that’s. The reason had i bought this at best. Buy. Bine, i’d have packed everything up and i said – and i showed him this and i said look this is damaged. Fine we’ll get you a new one. They’Ll pull one off pull one out of stock.
Here you are, mr heroes have a nice day. Bine, acolo. I am instant taken care of, so moral of the lesson is moral. The story is, unless you have some credit with dji, go to a brick and mortar store to buy your drones, Baieti, Bine, you know it’s just it’s, just it makes life a whole lot easier. Bine, i don’t know i’ll keep you posted as to what’s going on with this, but my feeling is i’m gon na hear the same story from him and i’m to say: look you guys are ridiculous. Bine, i just need. I just need this 59 piece you’re wanting me to send a 12 A 1300 drone back and give me a new drone just because this is bad now bill um. Do you think we have a quality control, baby issue going because you did you hear our show? Last week we had michael wright on and he received um. You know his um heir to the um. The metal things inside here were broken on his right out of the box. Now he ordered it from amazon.com. So i think how? How fast was this turnaround marcus? I think in like in one or two days they said how to do a whole new drone he’s got a whole new kit, yeah yeah, hei, but but i mean outside bill’s five day turnaround i mean his turnaround was like. I think it was one day bill. Bine, yeah that’s great, and i think they sent him his new drone before he sent the old one back.
Wow. Bine! Ei bine, i think the way it works with amazon is once they see that you’ve printed off that the the sticker to send it back to them. They ship you, your new one, yeah their markets is right, that’s how they know there’s another thing, even if even if you do want to go not brick and mortar, say you say that your closest best buy is 100 miles away. You live in a remote region. Amazon is is, does a quicker turnaround on defects than the mothership does dji? Ei bine, i don’t know if you saw lawn commented up there and he said they said the same thing to adrian about his google cable. They sent him a shipping label to send the entire drone back. So evidently this is their policy and it’s. Just it blows my mind because, Bine, i i you know, i major i majored in business, okay and in part of majoring in businesses. You had to do the last two months of the class you had to simulate a business from research and development, marketing um. You know you had to do everything. Bine, now this is back. In 1980, we had to put everything on punch cards. We had to run through, but you had to simulate it and run through running through a program all right and how it ended up. We actually ended up being number two in the class, which was, i thought, was pretty good, but the moral of the story is okay.
You have to think about cost it’s, going to cost dji more for me to send that drone back the entire thing back. Okay and it’s, going to you, know to then to send me this piece individually, Bine, este, going to cost them more to do that. Why would a company want to spend more money on that now? The one thing that i was thinking – and this is just this – is just hypothetical here: Bine, nu e, not a lot of these drones out there. Bine – and you know, we talked about the chip shortage and i’ve i’ve – encountered that in ordering my new car, Bine, which won’t get here till june, i just found out so here’s the thing are they wanting these to have as refurbished units to send to people instead Of having to send brand new units back to them, i don’t know i don’t know huh. Did you see michael right, Metal, wright’s comment: he’s, txr, drone guy he’s, amazon refund the cost for the return four days ago? Bine, Bine! Ei bine, you know that amazon is good. Amazon’S good too they’re. Almost you almost want to consider them a brick and mortar as well. I mean we have two large. I have two large distribution, centers, probably about uh, once one’s a they’re, probably about 15 miles away from where we live in our new new house here, so i mean they’re they’re, relatively close and amazon stuff. I get.
Știi, știi, nu-mi place, like lickety, split there’s, usually no problem between one of those two distribution centers. I get it like next day. Nu e, never never been a problem with that. So but yeah this. This is an adventure, and this just confirms and seeing what what you know like what long posted you know this? Is it it’s, ridiculous, este, just absolutely ridiculous doesn’t make any difference. A friend of a friend of ours sent me this link. If you’ll share my screen. It’S already up marcus, okay and and of course, you can see the price on there uh the uh, the the it’s in canadian dollars. So you might be able to guess what friends sent me this but bill if you’re going to pay 50 bucks for just that charging hub. This looks like a pretty good option, because this charges all of them at the same time, instead of like how the dji hub will just charge one battery at a time. This thing will charge them all at the same time. I don’t know if i had this exact branding, but i have this style hub for the air 2 that will charge all the batteries at once and will charge four batteries, not just three yeah. So you have that if you’re like me, if you let me have that extra battery uh it’ll charge it too well don’t, hei! If you want to send me that link ron, please do because i that that sound that sounds awful tempting you know versus versus this.
You know yeah, you mean that thing, in your hand, is probably ten dollar pro dji probably plays less than ten dollars. For that, oh i don’t i don’t. I don’t. I don’t doubt that for an absolute second – and you know you know, it’s a it’s, a lesson learned like i said you know, like you know, amazon best buy. Those are probably two of the places. I would recommend. Maybe b h photos, probably another good one. Bine, you know that you’re gon na have some good customer service with all right, hey ron, i got another suggestion for you: uh send bill your amazon affiliate link for that charger. o, da, da, da, now i’ll. Send you to my review video but i’ll. Put a fresh link up hey. This is all topic here, but i found a difference between. I finally found the difference between the batteries in the in the air 2 and the s model see the dji logo and the battery here. It it’s just it’s just the imprint, the plastic on the on the air ii. It has white, it has white paint, it’s it’s, exact, same logo, but it’s painted white and this there’s. They left it unpainted on the um on the s model, yeah they’re, saving way. Da, i thought that’s different, hei. I i wan na throw this to bill. Uh um, with with the disaster we had last year with the slow shipping of the hopson xeno 2 and the equally slow shipping of the fema x8 2020.
How impressed are you at aliexpress’s shipping of the um of the phoebe mini so far now they’ve done they’ve done extremely well. I was i’m very impressed with that i’m. Just you know it’s. Just like you know, you toss you roll the dice. Bine, and now you know you knew banggood was playing games with the price. Bine, and i can tell you this. I think i’ve gotten zero affiliate sales from banggood all right, because of that, because my banged rep got a hold of me today and asked me that very question. She asked me why i didn’t think they were selling any of those drones and – and i was just honest with her – i said: Bine – you can buy it at that 319 dollar price elsewhere, at both b h and aliexpress, Plus, i told her that people have experience With getting three months to get their products, their drones from banggood, i just looked at my order date on this, and it was exactly 20 days ago that i ordered it say, see that’s. You know because everything i’ve ordered from aliexpress it’s come either on or ahead of time everything i’ve ordered from them. Bine, i haven’t ordered a drone, but i’ve ordered accessories batteries. That type of thing it’s always come on time.