Two devices walk you through what the features are show you them in use and then give you my thoughts at the end. Now just to be clear up front, i bought these devices with my own money. I have not been asked by istt to make this video. I am simply giving you my thoughts as a purchaser as a user, just to give you an idea if you should consider buying these devices or not now just quickly before we take a closer look at them. I just want to talk about what im going to be doing over the next couple of weeks as well, around lipo charging, because ive bought these as part of a wider project to just try and make things a little bit safer in the way i charge my Lipo batteries, im redoing my charging area and im putting some processes in place just to try and reduce the risk of something going wrong. Now, in the last year, i actually had two lipos go up whilst in charge they didnt go particularly badly and they just popped and let off gas. However, this has been enough for me to start thinking about trying to put some safety procedures in place just in case the worst thing happened now just last week, other people have been posting images and ken from original dobo. If you havent seen his channel ill put a link to it, had a lipo go up whilst charging, so we all do need to be very aware of the risks and, as ive already said, this is all part of my new strategy and ill talk about that.

In a future number of videos over the next couple of weeks, if youre interested in seeing them, please do consider hitting the subscribe button and dont forget to hit the little bell as well. That way, youll get an update when its released anyway lets get on. With this, video lets take a look at the p10 first of all and then well take a look at the smart battery go so the p10 from isdt is a high power synchronous, dual channel battery charger. It features up to 20 amp total output or two times 250 watts, although it does appear that the full charging output is 400 watts, whilst using both at the same time. Now this is a dc based battery charger. It does not have a built in ac supply, so you will need to either have your own power supply to be able to power this or you will need to be able to power it off a battery. It does accept 10 to 30 volt main input, so it does give you quite a wide range now. This charger also supports up to 6s, so it is 1 26.4 volt output and, as ive said up to 250 watt per channel or 20 amp max now, taking a closer look at the device itself in the box, youll find the user guide. You get some nice stickers, they include a screen protector, which is a nice little feature, because this is a small and portable charger, so it does mean it could get knocked about a bit and having a screen.

Protector included is a nice little feature and then in the bottom of the box, youll find the actual device itself now, as ive said, because this is a dc only it is nice and small. It really is very small, very compact, and it has everything that you need dotted around it on each side which well come to in a second now just up front. I want to say something about this: this is a smart battery charger only it does charging and balancing, but it does not do discharging. So if you were looking for a whole charger to have on the bench to do everything, this probably isnt the best one. To look at for me the reason ive ordered this is im going to be using a number of chargers, rather than using one with a parallel charging board. So, for me this was the ideal solution and, if youre looking to set something up like a number of charges on the bench having a device like this is a quite a nice option because youre not having to spend more with those other features. Um and it covers all of the basics as well now taking a look around the device on the front. Youve got this nice large, color lcd screen and well take a look at that in a second weve got our buttons for our two channels. Youve got a rocker up and down in the middle, and then weve got a button that selects each channel and well look at that closely when we turn it on moving up to the top, you can see that weve got an xt60.

This is the dc power input again that allows that 10 to 30 volts youve got a fan for cooling and theres a usbc port for upgrading the firmware. So if they do release any new features in the future, they will be available via that on the bottom. Theres, nothing at all and then on each side, youve got the channel outputs depending on which side you want. So on the left side, weve got our 2 to 6s balance port input with our xt60 for channel 1 and then moving over to channel 2 again 2. To 6x balance port with our xt60 output and then jumping over to the back. It simply has the labeling and all of the information now size wise. The devices dimensions are 90.5 by 90.5 by 47 millimeters and it weighs about 250 grams. So again, its not the largest charger in the world. It isnt the smallest either, but it is a nice size overall and you wouldnt really have any issues tossing it in the back of a backpack. Now, just something to note is when you get it, it doesnt have any cables at all. So you will need to make up your own dc input cable to actually power this as well its a standard xd60. But again it is just worth noting when you get it, you only get the charger. The screen protector, the nice little pack of stickers and the user guide now to demo this on the bench im going to use a lipo now the nice thing about that.

Is you can use this out in the field with a battery as well to charge others? This is just one of my bench supplies um. What were going to do is plug them in power it up, and then you can see the device turns on, and the color screen comes to life. Now the screen is split up into two sides: weve got our side, one, which is this side here on our side too, which is this side here. You then have got the buttons, so, for instance, if i press that button, it puts thats left side under full screen, and this allows you to scroll through the various information about a battery and well plug one in and take a look at that in a second. We can then press it for the other side and it moves over to there and well scroll through for that one. We can then press and hold both, and this will then take us into the main menu system for the device as well, which gives us our dual track. Our parallel track our dc power on channel one, as well as our system settings and then to go in. You simply press the button. Under the system settings we have things such as lowest input, voltage, maximum input, power, backlight options volume because it does beep completion tone, whether you want it to be single or repeat, i put it on single split screen how long it stays in split screen before it Goes back back, go channel, one which well talk about in a minute back, go channel two language theme, whether you wanted to keep trickling a self test, calibration options and system info and then back now to use this charger its really fairly straightforward.

We take your battery, so were going to take a 3s nano pack were going to plug him in and well plug in our balance port as well, making sure that we get it in the right place. If i then press on to number one, you can now see that some information has come on so its now showing us the pack voltage the individual cell voltages. So this pack is currently at three point: eight one or two. If i scroll down its giving us just some more information, such as the temperature and everything else, so if we wanted to charge this battery, what we would do is press and hold number one for that side. We can then manually adjust the settings here if we want to so weve got our lipo. So if i press that we can change it to lipo high voltage, lipo lithium ion life, pb nickel, metal, hydrides, all of the usual suspects so were going to keep this. As lipo, you can set the condition voltage. So what voltage you want it to finish in so were going to say you can go all the way down as well on this, which allows you to actually adjust the output. The final output voltage youve got your cell count, so if you did put a battery on and it didnt auto detect it properly, you can set this as well and then you can change your current for charging and the nice thing about this is it has some Remembered features from what youve done last so youve got your one two, three four five, which is your last used settings and then below this.

You can go down and select what charge current you want. So for this, what im going to do is just say: half an amp, because i am taking it off another battery and then to start charging. You would simply press start, and you can now see that the charging process has begun at the top. Weve got our timer weve got our current charge output, our current milliamp output, which is actually being put into the battery, and then it gives you our voltage into the battery voltage into the charger. Sorry voltage into the battery temperature and if we scroll up, we can then go up and see some of the other information. So we can now look at what the internal resistances of the cells on this battery as well and then the current cell voltage. So it gives you all of the information you need to be able to actually charge your battery and make sure everything is correct. Now, something, i would say, is before you um ever charge a battery or you start charging just always make sure that your internal resistance is good. You want to be looking for about below 10, ideally at all times, anything above 10 is starting to get a bit. Concerning um anything below that should be absolutely fine. As you can see, these cells are 3.9. So absolutely no problems the at all. Now, if you leave the battery like this, what it will actually do is it will return back to that dual display as well.

So if you wanted to charge a second battery, it allows you to then do it that way now im just going to grab another pack and then you can see its populated on the blue side now showing us the its another 3s pack and everything like that. So if i wanted to check that one, so we can go in, we can check um what the current voltages are: the cells and, again we can look at the voltage going into the charger 14.9, the battery voltage at the output port and our temperature, and if We wanted to charge this one as well. We simply press and hold weve got 3s and again ill. Keep this one. The same 0.5 hit start and then itll start to charge that battery too so now were charging both batteries off the charger off. Obviously this battery here, ideally youd, want a power supply at this moment in time, but the nice thing is, it does allow you to do that dual battery charging and it is a lot safer charging batteries like this than with a parallel board. Parallel board charging carries serious risk, and that is something im going to explain more in the other videos. Ive got coming in the future, however um. That is one of the reasons ive bought. This device is because it allows you nice and quickly and easily to parallel charge, two batteries on the bench at the same time, and you are much better having multiples of charges like this, rather than having one big charger with a parallel charging board, because thats what Ive been doing because that just carries so much more risk now, just before i wrap it up on this, i just want to talk about a couple of the other features.

If we go into the main menu youve got this dual task and parallel task modes which allows you to use two batteries to charge. I havent tried it, but it looks like you put two battery uh, two inputs from a a single battery in and then output via the not 100 sure it works. That way its something i need to play with. They do talk about it in the manual, but it doesnt make a lot of sense. Youve also, then got a dc power option mode which allows it just to act as a normal dc power supply. So you can set the output voltage output current, and then you can turn that on and off as well, depending on what you want to do now. Just to give you my thoughts on the p10 having spent about two weeks with it overall, i have to say it does everything i expect a small charger to do. Um, i did know that it didnt have a built in discharger before i bought it, so that isnt a problem for me. However, if you do need a discharging circuit, this probably isnt the model for you, its straightforward, quick and easy to use. I, like the large color display. I like the way everything is laid out. The menu system is pretty straightforward. It would be nicer if um things like charging to storage charge was a bit easier. So, for instance, as far as i can tell, the only way to get the storage um voltage is actually changing.

The output here to 3.8 volt rather than um, have a just charge to um uh storage, having a separate mode im, trying to say um. Most of my other charges have a storage charge mode and a normal charge mode, whereas this doesnt appear to have that you simply have to change the output voltage, which is a little bit of a faff. If i am honest, however, other than that it does everything, i expect the charger to do price wise its, not the cheapest small charger on the market. I paid about 45 50 pounds for this in the uk believe its between 50 and 65 in the us, so it isnt as cheap as some of the other charges on the market, but it does feel of a decent quality. And if you do want a charger that does have some of these features like the dual parallel charging and its portable, its probably worth a look um really, the the final video is theres, not a lot to not like for a portable charger. I wish they did have some extra little features like the storage mode and and, if youre looking to do something like im doing with these multiple charges, rather than use parallel charging having a few of these would probably do you quite well anyway, thats it for this One next were going to take a look at the back, go and talk a little bit about that because theres something interesting about this.

That also is on this charger as well, and that is around this new smart battery feature. And if you look at the xt60 theres an extra pin in there and well talk about that when we talk about this one next so getting into the back go again. This is very similar to the p10. Weve got a user guide which were not going to read because who reads them again: some more stickers. Now, as i said, i actually bought two of these, so ive now got three of these packs of stickers. Again, a screen protector, really nice little addition in the pack. I love it when manufacturers start putting screen protectors in with stuff – and i wish everyone would do it and then weve got the lipo checker below now this isnt, the smallest lipo checker in the world. So, as you can see, ive just grabbed one of my normal little lipo checkers. So it is quite a bit bigger overall, but it has a lot more functionality. So taking a closer look over the device itself on the front, youve got the nice big lcd screen. Youve got some buttons for controlling the menus, which well look at in a sec on this side. Here weve got our xt60 as well as our balance pool up to 8s, so, whereas the charger only did 6s, this will check up to 8.. On this side. Weve got a usb a which allows us to actually charge other devices via the lipo, and this supports up to 12 volt 2 amp via qualcomm, quick charge, 3.

0 and weve got a usb micro for actually updating the firmware. Now. The primary job of this is a lipo checker, but it does have a few extra features as well. So what well do is well plug in one of these batteries well plug in that one well plug in the balance port, and you can see its turned on and the first thing that comes on the display. It shows us the information about the battery weve got plugged in so weve got our total pack voltage. Our deviation between the cells, which is these over here weve, got our lipo type and our remaining estimated capacity so were saying 29 and then here you can see the voltages on each cell, so weve got 3.825, 3.787 and 3.849 and these digits go out to three Places which is a nice feature now, if you press the center button, this will take us into the main menu that has some of the other functionality. So if i scroll all the way to the top, we have our language options which allows us to set the language of the device. Weve got our backlight mode, our power saver mode, our volume, our system information. So this will tell us what the firmware is and things like that weve got our receiver test function, because this device does also act as a receiver tester via either pwm or s bus. So you can actually use it to check what the signals are showing.

So if i go in, you can see it says the channels on that one or if i go to pwm mode, it allows you to actually check that as well and you can plug them in via the port. On the side, youve got your usb charge options which allows you to enable that usb, our cell balance feature and our back option as well. If we look at the cell balance option, this is a nice easy feature, you simply click, it click start and it will begin to balance the cells for you and you simply leave the device plugged in to the battery and itll sort them out. You can see its highlighted cells, one and three as needing to be balanced because thats, the higher of the three cells, so it would then simply begin to bleed off that voltage all the way down until all three cells are actually balanced. Now i did this on a battery the other day and ill be honest. It was very, very accurate. It literally got the cells identical down to that last three digit place after the point, so i was really impressed with how well this seemed to balance. It is by far the most accurate device i have here next to my multimeter for checking the battery voltages. This thing seems to have started to wander quite a bit, but this has been absolutely bang on. Also youll note: when the display goes off its got a nice feature that theres a little led up here that will start to flash when you have entered the balance mode, just to tell you that it is doing something.

So if we give it a second youll, actually see the display dim and then the display will actually go off to save the battery a bit more part of the power saver, and you can turn this off in the menu and then it will actually start flashing. That led on the top to tell you that its actually doing something its work in progress, and if we wanted to stop the cell balancing, we can simply hit that. Okay, so just to show you the pwm and ill try and show the s bus as well. Um youve got currently uh ive got the servo tester, just an output connected into the input we put the negative to negative and, as you can see here is currently on 224. If i just press this button here, itll actually cycle automatically and youll see that actually change on the display, and you can see that it is showing you that servo output directly on the display – and if i turn it off, then i can do it manually. You can see it says: 225, 224, so its absolutely bang on and as i adjust this down, you can see that the percentage is showing up at the top. The frequency which is 49 hertz and then the uh pulse width at the bottom, which is uh well, were heading towards a thousand microseconds and were heading all the way down down to 708. You can see its 70 on the display, so literally is bang on.

So its nice, if you do, want to test some servos and you dont, have one to hand, you can actually do it and let me just jump over to s. Bus okay ive been trying to get sbus to work, but i cant. I dont, really know why. Ive tried a couple of receivers. I am using fr sky, which is inverted stroke not in depending on which part of the world um of the radio world you live in, but uh yeah, i cant get asbes to show at all. Although ppm works absolutely fine, something i need to do a bit of digging into, i dont fully understand why its not showing um, but i can. I can only tell you guys what i find and what i find is s. Bus, isnt working but pwm is um. So if you are looking for it as an s, bus tester be a bit careful on that and i will report back later once ive spent a bit more time on it. If anyone has any ideas, do put them in the comments, as you can see, weve got input, okay. So, to give you the thoughts on the smart battery go um yeah. Overall, it does what you expect a lipo checker to do now. This is an expensive lego. Checker, i think i paid 25 pound each for these in the uk theyre about 40 dollars in the us, um im not sure its worth it just for a lipo checker.

Okay, what i really like is display size is really good and the balance it sells very easily as well. I i cant, though, say its worth the money because of the extra features, because i couldnt get experts to work. Pwm is nice, but you can get something for four or five dollars. Thatll tell you what i was showing you this so um, not so sure im not disappointed in the purchase at all. I knew what i was going for with these. I knew they were expensive. The reason i bought two is, i want one in my bag and one on the bench and, if i think really, if youre after a good quality, lipo checker that does do up to 8s, that has a great big display. Then this is well worth the look. I just wouldnt buy it based on those alleged extra features. One last thing i want to talk about before i wrap this video up is batgo technology. Now these devices support it. What bacco is is an emerging sort of method of having smart battery information from normal lipos theyre – not really normal at that point, but it is a standard that allows the battery to communicate with either the device or the charger to provide more information. Now these all have a compatible xd60 connector that has an extra pin to allow you to actually get that information into the battery. If i just move to the overhead and show you – and if i just zoom in you, can see that on the xd60 on each side, theres an extra pin there that isnt a plastic one that is an actual copper pin, weve got it on that side.

On that 1d as well – and if we look on this, you can see that theres an extra pin there too now, as ive, said its this technology that has this xt60i connector and it allows you to get full detailed parameters on the battery now. This is something thats, quite new and theres, a click link that takes you to the website, which gives you more information on the kind of things that youre going to get from this, and it is something youre going to see more and more happen over the next Couple of months and years, but again this isnt specific to every battery. This is some companies partnering together, so its isdt banggood and a number of other companies involved trying to come together, heli direct to put out a smart battery standard but theres, nothing to say this is going to be the main standard that everyone uses. However, it is nice to see and if it does become more widespread, these devices do support it. Okay and that pretty much is it for this video to summer up over all the charger im happy with. I just wish theyd had a storage mode on lipos as well as it would be nice to have the discharge function overall, though, a very nice charger with regards to the lipo checker bit expensive, to be perfectly honest, not so sure about the extra functionality. But i do like the large big screen very accurate, nice and straightforward.

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